Oooooooh….. We are doing a post about both socialized healthcare AND Canada!
February 3, 2010 51 Comments
This is EPIC.
On one hand you have a country that has socialized health care across the board, one that I have occasionally been lambasted about due to the fact that the evil American political machine has not found the ability to implement…. And on the other hand you have one of the very persons representing the government that socialized medicine coming TO THE GODDAMNED STATES to get an operation performed. If you get a chance you should really read the comments; the vast majority of the 644 that are posted read like an open letter to the government discussing how BAD the care there was.
-Forgot to post it: this is the guy that is going for the surgery.
Seems like a smart enough guy to me.
-What other national leader has recently left his own country to seek medical care?
Oh yeah, this guy.
Also can’t forget these guys. The NEVER get treated in their own country.
What does this have to say about these “world leaders” that they can’t get proper health care in their own back yards?
-And you had better believe that KC has some personal experience with this one.
So Old Iron is trying to get under my skin about Canadian the health care system.
I have repeatedly said to many an American: Canada’s socialised health care system is FAR from perfect. Don’t try to do the same. Rather, take the best of all socialised health care and create your own. But noooooooo. You HAAAAAAFTA pick on Canada.
Damn republican. 🙂
Look the issue in Canada right now is NOT the quality of health care you get, once you get it. It’s the bloody looonng insane waits to actually get that care. It’s complete bullshit that we don’t have the same level of quality health care as the US. What the US doesn’t have are the long waiting periods to get appointments, surgeries, tests etc… mostly because, as I can see from sitting here in BC – no body can afford that level of care in the US, and therefore, there’s no waiting. (Here comes the LET’S BASH KC FOR THIS STATEMENT…) I blame all the Canadian doctors who ran across the border, taking with them their specialty, while leaving a gaping hole in the system… all to make a buck more. Greedy bastards. I also blame the Canadian government for that and doing a poor ass job at finding and retaining doctors in Canada.
The Canadian health care system is technically, at first glances, ‘free’ publically funded health care. (Free my ass… the amount of taxes I pay – nothing is free here). What I do appreciate, however, that is greatly lacking in the US is that regardless of my status in society – I can get ‘free’ health care… and services that aren’t determined by an insurance company. What I don’t appreciate is how long it takes to get, what appears at first glances as non-life threatening conditions – evaluated and resolved. The problem with that theory is that… while you might not initially be dealing with a non-life threatening condition… it can become life-threatening by the time you get treatment… if its not already to late. You are treated, unhurriedly, by the ‘next-available-appointment’ system, determined by your health care practioner… which seems to me, greatly flawed. Some ‘experts’ disagree however by stating that “a system of immediate care can be detrimental for optimal patient outcomes due to avoidance of unnecessary or unproven surgery.”
This past fall I suffered terribly from a herniated L5S1 disc in my back, the one in your lower tailbone. Sitting, walking, laying down, standing – all extremely painful. My left leg was virtually paralyzed for several weeks, feeling nothing, nor having any ability to stand or put any weight on it without crumbling to the ground. I lost a lot of muscle strength in my left leg (and still trying to regain it). The painkillers they gave me destroyed my stomach. Surgery is inevitable – I will have to have it done at some point. The MRI was scheduled 4 full months AFTER the injury (I must admit that the CT Scan was pretty immediate). This is all because I had (still am) been limping on a fractured ankle and have been waiting for 6 months to see a foot and ankle specialist (which I just finally saw yesterday)… which for that issue, surgery is also inevitable.
Had they fixed my ankle in the first place, back when I was first diagnosed, I wouldn’t have fucked up my back and now looking at spine surgery, on top of ankle surgery. Both totally avoidable. But I wasn’t prioritized as a medical emergency even after hardly being able to walk on said fractured ankle and having a paralyzed left leg.
Am I happy with my health care system?
50% yes, 50% no.
For day to day care… very much so. I am very happy with it. No complaints.
For the more serious, where specialty care is required – no. Not impressed at all. In fact, I think it’s failing, miserably.
While 82% of Canadians are happy (according to a 2009 Nanos Research poll) with our system… I think that it’s based purely on immediate care… not specialty care. And on that front, I agree.
Now what pisses me off to no end about Old Iron’s linked story.
While I know for a fact that had I had the $45,000 USD quoted to me, I could have had my herniated disc treated IMMEDIATELY in the US. But I don’t. I don’t know too many people who have that kind of cash just laying around collecting dust, not in this economy.
So – the Premier of Newfoundland, who is paid by the people, is seeking treatment in the US. Who’s paying for it? The tax payer. Me and many others. So, as a tax payer in this country, I am paying for his treatment in the US. No one really knows yet what exactly is the treatment he is seeking in the US and why he couldn’t have gotten it in Ottawa at a very reputable and top notch Canadian Heart Clinic. But I am paying for his treatment… while I can’t even afford my own… and must suffer thru more than 6 months of excrutiating pain?!
fucked up wrong.
I wouldn’t give a rats ass had it been allowable for the likes of us common folks, the minion of the country, to be able to do the same as the Premier. But my taxes don’t pay for my treatements in the US. Only his. And because I am taxed thru the wa-hoo, I can’t even afford my own treatments in the US. Gotta love that irony.
I’m not here to try to convince you to get universal health care system like Canada’s.
But at the end of the day, while it might still be back-assed backwards, I will still stick with mine… and not risk my life at the hands of insurance people who get to say whether or not my treatment are covered otherwise re-mortgage your damn life… and for many – no treatment at all. Because while it might take a while to get there, I at least know, I am gonna get there. Regardless of my social status.
And at the end of the day, that is where my priorities lie.